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= WORKFLOW: How informations get into Wiki =

== Developing ==

=== Feature requests / discussion ===

=== Coding / committing ===

==== Trackers for Scripts back in sync ====

'''jesterKing'''

<pre>
<jesterKing> https://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/?root=bf-scripts
<jesterKing> there is already such a folder
<jesterKing> the current scripts in there should be replaced by what meta has

<jesterKing> yes bf-scripts just lacks good project leader
<jesterKing> so I hope you and meta can pull that cart
<jesterKing> ianwill and I just have too little time to make a good effort,
and with you and meta having done already a lot
will make it much more viable
<jesterKing> so: revive bf-scripts and start advertising it on
blenderartists.org and other forums
<jesterKing> of course, it means that you have to be dedicated to maintaining it :)
<mindrones> mm, it depends on what part :)
<jesterKing> check weekly or so for new patches :)
<mindrones> ok
<jesterKing> just checking patches, improving scripts, etc.
<mindrones> but who commits scripts?
<jesterKing> you and meta to start with
<jesterKing> and if there are more users who show dedication and skills,
we can add people with commit rights
<jesterKing> I guess you and meta would be project admins, too
<jesterKing> to make sure we have people who can react soon enough
<mindrones> mm, that's tricky I have to see if I have serious time,
I don't wanna fool people on this, also I'd prefer
to have a look at wiki
<jesterKing> well, I guess meta is currently the best candidate anyway
<jesterKing> but it'd be good if you had access too, for when you have some spare time
<mindrones> sure
</pre>

'''meta-androcto'''

<pre>
<meta-androcto> well, i test all scripts listed, read the code,
write bpydocs & help texts & add copyright for
the author when needed.
<meta-androcto> then update it all again for the next version of Blender.
<meta-androcto> =)
<meta-androcto> for example the wiki bundles i produced are all
bug fixed versions of the scripts in the catalog,
from my personal collection.
<mindrones> mygod and you're still alive?
<mindrones> :) good work

<meta-androcto> hmm, is that page https://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/scripts/?root=bf-scripts
up to date?
<mindrones> yes, indeed. 4 years I know :)
<meta-androcto> ? well, that woud be on the list to fix!
<mindrones> yes!
<mindrones> jesterking asked to spread the voice in
blenderartists and forums and such after
this will be made
<mindrones> you are the best for this
<mindrones> I'm not much ito blenderstartist
<mindrones> and you have the experience on scripts and
ianwill told me the idea of catalog is yours, so... :)
<meta-androcto> well, ianwill set me up! =)
<mindrones> if you are ok with it, you can do that :)
<mindrones> infact I think most of the job will be to read
into bartists and tell the people to use the
tracker, that's what jester said at least
<meta-androcto> sure, i'm figuring it out. =)
<mindrones> so find scripts and alert people of the tracker
and make them add things there and post links from the tracker :/
<mindrones> it won't be easy
<meta-androcto> they wont do it.
<mindrones> so howto make them move there?
<meta-androcto> I will sell the idea to them. must...
<meta-androcto> on blender artists forums, then international
forums also.
<mindrones> ok
<mindrones> but wait untile the things are in place
<mindrones> "sell the idea" :) perfect :)

<meta-androcto> external script management is a perplexing issue.
unlike committed scripts, that should be handled differently.
<mindrones> yes. what do you propose?
<meta-androcto> for internal scripts, the svn path, certainly i
will present the idea of adding a limited amount
of new scripts, but there's many people who
approve that....
<mindrones> add to svn means proposing them for bundling?
<meta-androcto> yes, i am pretty sure.
<mindrones> ok, and for external?
<meta-androcto> so, possibly for older scripts, clean the wiki,
not erase, possibly add the script text for each
script, then start new for 2.50
<mindrones> so external scripts can be in branch
<mindrones> https://projects.blender.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/branches/?root=bf-scripts
<mindrones> for them to have a space to manage the script publicly
<mindrones> people can add scripts from branch
<mindrones> while from trunk get added in blender trunk
<meta-androcto> ok, that sounds good. but still, there's security issues.
<meta-androcto> wanna send 10,000 emails when you open a .blend
or run a script without looking at it?
<mindrones> and in catalog this is allowed?
<meta-androcto> no, ianwill taught me well. =)
</pre>

==== Tracker for Plugins ====

'''sirdude (Kent Mein)'''

<pre>
<mindrones> I wanna propose to get in use bf-scripts tracker for Plugins also
<mindrones> and include a sort of catalog like for scripts but for plugins
<mindrones> so I'd need an opinion from you :)
<mindrones> I'm thinking at bf-plugins, what do you think?
<sirdude> I'm all for it. I haven't really had time to keep
uptodate with the plugins.... a couple of people
have sent me new stuff and I still have it in my inbox
(almost a year old some of it) *blush*
<mindrones> huuuf :)
<sirdude> plugins are a bit more complicated though
<mindrones> why?
<mindrones> can we divide them in trunk and branches?
<sirdude> well the pending stuff I have is unusual... example
lua plugin isn't really like the other ones and has
external dependancies...
<sirdude> sure
<sirdude> plugins are also odd... well what I mean is builtin
textures are different than a texture plugin
<mindrones> I'd divide in Texture and Seq and then if they are
bigger than 1 file I'd do a folder
<sirdude> well the branch thing is maybe not a good idea.
<mindrones> why?
<sirdude> what I mean is our current svn setup is when you
have access to say a branch, you have access to the
whole shebang... your just authorized to work in your branch.
<mindrones> ok
<sirdude> doesn't really solve the this section is more open...
<mindrones> so how to do with more-than-1-file plugins?
<sirdude> should be able to make a seperate tree though which
we could merge things in from to main trunk periodilcally.
<mindrones> infact I'd like people committing to bf-plugins and
only then to bf-blender
<sirdude> make a new svn tree that is just plugins&scripts or
two seperate ones... where many people can get access
<mindrones> ok
<sirdude> *nod* sounds like a good plan to me.
<mindrones> cool thanks

<mindrones> only problem is I woudn't do all commits via svn commit
<mindrones> but I'd open a plugin tracker as we have patches now
<mindrones> so people can talk and then we committ stable plugins
<sirdude> so a plugin tracker sort of thing? yes you'd want both...
but the idea would be to hopefully have more people
authorized to commit stuff than maybe dev's for main trunk.
<sirdude> anything to encourage people to work on them, while
also maintaining a certain level of quality.
<sirdude> well we have to encourage people to work as a team...
otherwise you wind up with 50 different plugins that
flip an image and they all are basically the same
but have some stupid little difference.
<mindrones> ok
</pre>

==== Tracker for blend files ====

=== Testing / discussion ===

=== svn log / commits tags ===

==== Blogging via mail ====

<pre>
<jesterKing> I'm not too sure about the tagging and emailing part,
but I have to reread and thing hard about it
<jesterKing> with svn commit messages blog
<jesterKing> there are for instance already RSS feeds with the messages
<mindrones> where?
<jesterKing> http://cia.vc/stats/project/Blender/
<jesterKing> you could use that as basis for a blog
<jesterKing> I actually run it into Planet Blender, too
<mindrones> ok
<mindrones> but I'm interested in categories and tags, do they have them?
<jesterKing> no, but I mean, they could be tagged afterwards
<jesterKing> it needs to be done anyway?
<jesterKing> I mean, we don't have tags, nor categories in our commit messages
<mindrones> well problem is for release logs/notes
<jesterKing> (and I don't think we will ever have that)
<mindrones> ok
<mindrones> but people can help with that
<mindrones> just read and tag
<jesterKing> as I already mentioned, I proposed already once
something before, but that just didn't work
<jesterKing> that's what I meant, use the RSS feed from cia.vc
and import in your own blog + tag?
<mindrones> ah yes, you import and then tag things
<jesterKing> yes
<mindrones> better we do that after 2.5, too commits
<jesterKing> that was what I wanted to suggest
<mindrones> ok
</pre>

== Documenting ==

=== Release notes and Todo list ===

=== Versioning ===

==== Versioning (whole pages) ====

==== Versioning (parts of pages) ====

==== Versioning (python scripts) ====

*Most scripts are being worked on to this end. The Scripts/Catalog & Scripts/Manual are being updated to ease the transition into 2.50. I can be contacted on irc #blenderwiki for discussion. [[User:Scorpion|Scorpion (Meta-Androcto)]]

==== Versioning (images) ====

==== Versioning (possible solution) ====

=== Localization / Translation ===

=== Occasional contribution ===

=== Uniformity (page scheme) ===

=== Ease of use ===

=== Removing old blocking warnings ===

== Collaborating ==

=== Talk_page ===

=== Talk_page comments policy ===

=== Talk_page structure ===

== Reading ==

=== Searching ===

=== Short URL ===

=== Broken links ===

=== Overlap beetwen development docs in CMS and wiki ===

=== Merging of BSoD (in Tutorials and Manual) ===

=== Merging of Game Engine with other features of Blender ===

=== Section map ===

=== Uniformity and cross-checking ===

=== Proper indentation in the TOC(Table Of Contents) ===

=== Offline version ===

=== Standardized chapters ===

=== Imagemaps to navigate manuals from Blender screenshots ===

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