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		<title>Yamyam: 1版 をインポートしました</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1版 をインポートしました&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Yamyam</name></author>
		
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		<title>wiki&gt;Brecht: moved Dev talk:Ref/Proposals/Usability Project to Dev talk:Ref/Outdated/Proposals/Usability Project</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/Dev_talk:Ref/Proposals/Usability_Project&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Dev talk:Ref/Proposals/Usability Project&quot;&gt;Dev talk:Ref/Proposals/Usability Project&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Dev_talk:Ref/Outdated/Proposals/Usability_Project&quot; title=&quot;Dev talk:Ref/Outdated/Proposals/Usability Project&quot;&gt;Dev talk:Ref/Outdated/Proposals/Usability Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;新規ページ&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= Panels =&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, the problem with tablet users reorganizing the panels should be minor, as the active area for dragging is pretty small (the widgets that looks like a resize control) and most of the header is about collapse now. If people click randomly to have such issues, lots of other things will break earlier. (Side note: maybe that widget should change to something that implies move, instead of common resize diagonal lines/dots. Same issue for the corner areas in all views, if just not remove them, as they overlap other controls, have no hint about purpose or avaliable keys, and frame menu makes them redundant). [[User:Gsrb3d|Gsrb3d]] 02:26, 22 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Panel header has a bigger text than other things but it looks more related to the thing above than the ones below. The horizontal line helps notice they are separate things, but the blank space between title and contents works againts that. Maybe it should be removed (down to normal spacing), it will for sure reduce scrolling a bit. [[User:Gsrb3d|Gsrb3d]] 21:07, 23 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Toolbar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Last operator workflow ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Last operator workflow is strange. For some things it acts more like current operator, you activate some cmd, type things and commit. And when working as last operator, if you want to do something with total control, you have to do something random without feedback, then the panel contents appear. Compare add torus vs grab. No idea how/where to put that, other than it is a convoluted interface, and maybe could require some core changes so semantics are standard (select item - action, vs action - select item). Or from another point of view, some cmds are pretty rigid without operator panel or invoking the popup by hand (add torus) while others can work rather good if not 100% without it (grab). [[User:Gsrb3d|Gsrb3d]] 01:54, 22 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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: linked in the page --[[User:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;mindrones&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 02:11, 22 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Another issue: when undoing/redoing, it seems to be unavaliable. Half designed/implemented concept or luckly a solvable bug? [[User:Gsrb3d|Gsrb3d]] 22:41, 30 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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= Relations =&lt;br /&gt;
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== OOPS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should not OOPS allow editing relations? Instead of being just a view, it should allow changing those things that it could control. [[User:Gsrb3d|Gsrb3d]] 00:37, 22 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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: added to the page, feel free to add this stuff in the page your self :) --[[User:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;mindrones&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 00:39, 22 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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= Page approach =&lt;br /&gt;
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small suggestion: a lot of the framework is in the form problem-solution: while that is true in some specific cases, in general, there are trade-offs: the solutions solve some problem, but result in some side effect. I think an honest appraisal would have :&lt;br /&gt;
problem-solution-tradeoffs&lt;br /&gt;
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this would allow: honest appraisal of the solution, and is a non-combative way to discuss, since most (every?) solution will probably have some trade off.&lt;br /&gt;
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: done :) --[[User:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;mindrones&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[User talk:Mindrones|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]] 21:57, 21 January 2012 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>wiki&gt;Brecht</name></author>
		
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