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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1版 をインポートしました&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>wiki&gt;Mindrones: Org:Bf-institute/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary moved to Org:Foundation/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary: Bf-education is under Foundation, I wasn't aware of that</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/Org:Bf-institute/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Org:Bf-institute/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&quot;&gt;Org:Bf-institute/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/Org:Foundation/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&quot; title=&quot;Org:Foundation/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&quot;&gt;Org:Foundation/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary&lt;/a&gt;: Bf-education is under Foundation, I wasn&amp;#039;t aware of that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;新規ページ&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= Mailing list summary 2004-2005 =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2004&lt;br /&gt;
oct &lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.	setup of mailing list&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas	managment system http://blender.ruicampos.com/mgmt.&lt;br /&gt;
nov	&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver	suggested tutorials to use as reference for international audience&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas	Idea: small course with its certification&lt;br /&gt;
		tools: 	+Xical - Phillip Richdale - Platform for courses and&lt;br /&gt;
certifications&lt;br /&gt;
			+blenderzine 1 - Alexandre Rangel - Training CD in portuguese&lt;br /&gt;
			+ Infrastructure and facilities support-Jono Bacon&lt;br /&gt;
			+Courses beta testers - Joshua Seaver&lt;br /&gt;
		Proposal: 	1.Define content&lt;br /&gt;
				2.Make the movie&lt;br /&gt;
				3.Make translations&lt;br /&gt;
				4.Implementation, Xical&lt;br /&gt;
				5.Review and define goals for the course&lt;br /&gt;
				6.Certification content and goals&lt;br /&gt;
				7.Prepare deploy and test phase&lt;br /&gt;
				8.Review results and define future goals&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.	Seeks help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas	Offered help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators and&lt;br /&gt;
asked for details&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas	management system's update&lt;br /&gt;
	claudio	Esbosed a certification program.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2005&lt;br /&gt;
jan 	Gustavo Muñoz	started course &amp;quot;introducing 3D for artists with blender&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
			Offered spanish translations,colaboration in the certification&lt;br /&gt;
program, official colaboration from the fine arts institute (spain)&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		pointed february as the month to start hitting hard&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Asked for opinions for the courses. &lt;br /&gt;
			Added ideas about the coures and their estructure.&lt;br /&gt;
	Alarrea		Agreed about the first rcas's question, differed in the second.&lt;br /&gt;
			Waiting for the courses to be ready.&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Hoped to have first set of courses ready in june/july (english)&lt;br /&gt;
			Offered translate it to portuguese, spanish, french and german.&lt;br /&gt;
			Was finishing something in the blender source to provide good visual&lt;br /&gt;
feedback for the video courses.&lt;br /&gt;
			After finish with previous item. Offered the blender shorcuts&lt;br /&gt;
tutorial as a proof of concept&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked for feedback and ideas.&lt;br /&gt;
			Planted the idea of defining standard courses to be later defined as&lt;br /&gt;
the official set.&lt;br /&gt;
	Gustavo Muñoz	Proposed a way to orginize the courses&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked about implementation of the &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; blender course titles&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked if certification was due to some hours of teaching blender&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked for teacher's certification.&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked  who will choose among the courses the official one.&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Answered gustavo's questions.&lt;br /&gt;
	Gustavo Muñoz	Agreed using Xical. Pointed that the demo is slow.&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Offered a link to a small demo in xical&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.		Angela Plohman assigned to coordinate the education project.&lt;br /&gt;
			Goal: to have education/training material developed in 2005&lt;br /&gt;
			The 1200 missprints issue.&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.		BF intended for 2005 an update of the 2.3 guide.&lt;br /&gt;
			Idea: parallel book for people who wanted to learn blender and&lt;br /&gt;
companion for the official blender certified book&lt;br /&gt;
			Proposed title: Blender fundamentals.&lt;br /&gt;
			Asked stefano for being the editor and reminded that the content&lt;br /&gt;
should  be done based on the help of experienced educators.&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the course&lt;br /&gt;
			&lt;br /&gt;
feb 	Gustavo muñoz	proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the&lt;br /&gt;
course.&lt;br /&gt;
			Proposed the lessons of his course as the basis for the official course&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed ideas for the course.&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed a revenue system for the official courses&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		Agreed gustavo's proposals&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed a video course along with the advanced books&lt;br /&gt;
			idea: certifying teachers that way company/school would be officially&lt;br /&gt;
recognized.&lt;br /&gt;
	Daniel Labarge	posted a new tutorial realfxstudios&lt;br /&gt;
	Daniel Labarge	posted a new tutorial realfxstudios&lt;br /&gt;
	macouno		was teaching 3d, planned to use blender but uncertain&lt;br /&gt;
			pointed few posts about certification and online lesson publishing&lt;br /&gt;
			pointed reasons why certification was not a good idea at the moment&lt;br /&gt;
			idea: official manual discount for educators who buy large ammounts&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		reply to macouno's idea&lt;br /&gt;
			missprints issue.&lt;br /&gt;
	macouno		proposed ideas for educators materials&lt;br /&gt;
	realfxstudios	posted new tutorial&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.		www.3dny.com contacted me for developing course materials&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for references&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		reply&lt;br /&gt;
	Gustavo muñoz	reply&lt;br /&gt;
	realfxstudios	posted new tutorial&lt;br /&gt;
	realfxstudios	updated website&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.		introduced natraj to the mailing list&lt;br /&gt;
			natraj's letter: was aproacher an indian tv company for blender training.&lt;br /&gt;
					 idea: create a blender training section on their website&lt;br /&gt;
					 offered the material they developed free of cost in return of&lt;br /&gt;
rights and an acknoledgment&lt;br /&gt;
					 &lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
mar 	hhec		proposed targets for the certification program&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed an structure for the certification as a compilation of ideas&lt;br /&gt;
in the mailing list&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		Agreed hhec's proposal&lt;br /&gt;
			added the diploma's concept before certification&lt;br /&gt;
	hhec		agreed rcas's proposal&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed a new structure adding the diploma's concept&lt;br /&gt;
			questions about who will emmitt diplomas and certificates and gives&lt;br /&gt;
hipotetical answers for opinion&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		answers previous questions&lt;br /&gt;
	realfxstudios	ideas for training approval&lt;br /&gt;
			differs from hhec's structure&lt;br /&gt;
			proposed a new structure for certification&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		opinion: certificate or diploma it is for the initial&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;trainers&amp;quot; before general public.&lt;br /&gt;
			reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods&lt;br /&gt;
			proposal: 	books covering basic and advanced features and DVD's&lt;br /&gt;
trouought the e-shop&lt;br /&gt;
					innovate aproach of the contents, focus in 3d and CG as the main&lt;br /&gt;
content.&lt;br /&gt;
			Declared time to start defining specific contents, keeping in mind&lt;br /&gt;
the following:&lt;br /&gt;
				There is already a Reference Book.&lt;br /&gt;
				There will be a series of &amp;quot;Blender Advanced&amp;quot; books.&lt;br /&gt;
				The approach should be centered on 3D and CG, not Blender itself&lt;br /&gt;
(for that purpose we have the Reference Book).&lt;br /&gt;
				The content of the &amp;quot;Blender Basics&amp;quot; series is to be used by people&lt;br /&gt;
who may or may not know anything about 3D and CG.&lt;br /&gt;
				The &amp;quot;Blender Advanced&amp;quot; series will be used to train experts.&lt;br /&gt;
	Ton R.		Opinion: focus on feasible steps:&lt;br /&gt;
					to develop good course material (like Blender Fundamentals course book)&lt;br /&gt;
					develop a training program for trainers, and a means to certify&lt;br /&gt;
them as such&lt;br /&gt;
			proposal: training should be targeted to teachers withing training&lt;br /&gt;
facilities to help them get new business&lt;br /&gt;
				  artists suscribing to &amp;quot;certified&amp;quot; training would get a diploma not&lt;br /&gt;
a bf-education certification&lt;br /&gt;
				  Setting up a good training program should essentially break the&lt;br /&gt;
barrier to get Blender accepted for many professionals out there, who&lt;br /&gt;
are not interested to participate in time-consuming web-based communities&lt;br /&gt;
				  we could start with defining the structure for how to certify&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Fundamental Trainer&amp;quot; certifications.&lt;br /&gt;
			Main benefits of this approach:&lt;br /&gt;
				it minimizes amount of work for the BF (we only have to certify&lt;br /&gt;
trainers)&lt;br /&gt;
				a certification becomes valuable and defines status (only few have it)&lt;br /&gt;
				maximum freedom for teachers to structure courses&lt;br /&gt;
				clear business model; BF only will 'make money' from certifying&lt;br /&gt;
trainers and (optional) educational material. For the rest it's up to&lt;br /&gt;
the teacher to define how to do the business locally&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		reviewed www.animationmentor.com&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		complains about xical's video and sensitivity to programming&lt;br /&gt;
errors&lt;br /&gt;
			Offered website with tutorials for students and teachers.&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		explains xical's video problem and solution.&lt;br /&gt;
			agrees the sensibility to errors in xical&lt;br /&gt;
			calls for alternatives to xical.&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		Jim hoffman's letter:&lt;br /&gt;
				introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask&lt;br /&gt;
				explained plans&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		reviewed&lt;br /&gt;
http://ltc.smm.org/visualize/resources/tutorials/blender/modeling&lt;br /&gt;
	jim hoffman	introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask&lt;br /&gt;
			explained plans&lt;br /&gt;
	gustavo muñoz	working on translation of video tutos at blender3d.org to&lt;br /&gt;
spanish&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for space to upload the tutos&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for help in adding the audio to the video &lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		reply jim hoffman's letter&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		reply to gustavo muñoz space request&lt;br /&gt;
	hhec		offered gustavo help translating the tutos&lt;br /&gt;
	g muñoz		hhec comm handshake&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		reviewed an introductory PDF for personal learning edition of Maya&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		opinion about the course's book: it should be a bit more&lt;br /&gt;
extensive that The Art of Maya. The Art of Maya is pretty good, but I&lt;br /&gt;
find it too basic, it should provide a bit more than that.&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		www.joshuaseaver.com/3D/ArtofMaya.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		asked for  anyone with ideas for authoring/editing books&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
apr&lt;br /&gt;
	paul chong	expressed ideas for the publisher.&lt;br /&gt;
may	&lt;br /&gt;
	ton r.		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	ton r.		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	ton r.		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	G. Muñoz	2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
			planned some larger courses&lt;br /&gt;
	ton r.		2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	G. Muñoz	2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
	daniel labarge	2.3 manual issue&lt;br /&gt;
aug&lt;br /&gt;
	Dhenton		looking for classes resources&lt;br /&gt;
	ton r.		reply dhenton&lt;br /&gt;
	dhenton		offered publishing on the web his material (if classes....)&lt;br /&gt;
	Chris stones	intend to write a series of how to use blender&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for someone to host the videos&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
oct&lt;br /&gt;
	carsten tigges	teacher orginizing an educational project some material&lt;br /&gt;
already made and the rest will be published as it becomes ready&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		been teaching to teens constantly&lt;br /&gt;
			experience teaching maya&lt;br /&gt;
			offered help to carsten tigges&lt;br /&gt;
	jseaver		offered an overview of his student's works&lt;br /&gt;
	ross jardine	teaching students 13-15&lt;br /&gt;
			offered help reviewing educational material&lt;br /&gt;
	pascal companion   Bentot des tutoriaux pour former des jeunes à&lt;br /&gt;
Blender ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		reply carsten&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		link to a summary of 2005 conference (in education)&lt;br /&gt;
	ewout		Migration guides should be secondary to the main manual&lt;br /&gt;
			There should be separate manuals covering specific areas&lt;br /&gt;
			A quick start material is needed for &amp;quot;instant satisfaction&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
			Concerned about consistency in style&lt;br /&gt;
			Offered to make an overview of style elements and combine them in a&lt;br /&gt;
styleguide&lt;br /&gt;
	tom M.		proposes to identify target market as a to-do&lt;br /&gt;
			samples of migration guides&lt;br /&gt;
			reviewed Zbrush at pixologic&lt;br /&gt;
			intention: develop training tools&lt;br /&gt;
	carstentiges	software demo ready&lt;br /&gt;
			Offered help on education&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		reply carsten&lt;br /&gt;
	tom M.		reviewed sketchups&lt;br /&gt;
	tom M.		idea: create an intro to OOP structured on blender&lt;br /&gt;
	Dhenton		debates tom M.&lt;br /&gt;
			&lt;br /&gt;
nov	carsten	T.	preparing sample chapters for a book about &amp;quot;general 3d -&lt;br /&gt;
related to blender&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for opinions about content of the book&lt;br /&gt;
	matt K.		discuss and gives opinions and ideas to carsten about the book&lt;br /&gt;
	Rcas		discuss and gives detailed opinions and ideas to carsten about&lt;br /&gt;
the book&lt;br /&gt;
	tom M		ideas related to newbies and the game engine&lt;br /&gt;
	hhec		some opinions about the carsten book issue&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		hhec's letter:&lt;br /&gt;
				described a self sustained plan for teaching and rising funds for&lt;br /&gt;
foundation&lt;br /&gt;
	luigi monaco	entered a project in the educational section&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for feedback&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
dec	Tom M		competition for a &amp;quot;cheat sheet&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
			sample cheatsheets from other vendors&lt;br /&gt;
			asked for a keyboard map layout in the cheatseet (present the&lt;br /&gt;
reference's layout)&lt;br /&gt;
			links to a quickstart sample&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		proposed a meeting. Presented scope and goals for the meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
	carsten T.	announces progress related to the book he anounced on november&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		link to wiki's agenda, minute and log&lt;br /&gt;
			propose topics for next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
					times for meeting&lt;br /&gt;
					name for the channel&lt;br /&gt;
					purpose of each team&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2006&lt;br /&gt;
jan 	tom M		reviewed a 3dcg  book at&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.joetainment.com/Plone/thecgtextbook/&lt;br /&gt;
	Bas van Dijk	links to a dutch blender course&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		goals for 2006 in bfeducation:&lt;br /&gt;
				Worldwide workshops for Blender&lt;br /&gt;
				Help on the creation of the Training Book (for teachers)&lt;br /&gt;
			goals for 2006 in bfdocboard:&lt;br /&gt;
				Work closely for the creation of the Training Book&lt;br /&gt;
				Help organize things for a better workflow between the developers&lt;br /&gt;
and the docboard&lt;br /&gt;
				Translating the missing parts of the Books to Portuguese&lt;br /&gt;
				Help with the creation of the new set of Books&lt;br /&gt;
			proposes topics for next meeting:&lt;br /&gt;
				Who will actively be in &amp;quot;charge&amp;quot; of bf-docboard, mostly for coordination&lt;br /&gt;
				The focus of each board, to avoid overlapping&lt;br /&gt;
				Define goals for 2006 for each board&lt;br /&gt;
				Create a proposal for Blender devs of a better workflow between Devs&lt;br /&gt;
and Docboard, mostly for more up to date Documentation&lt;br /&gt;
				Define standard week day and time for Meetings&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		topics for next meeting&lt;br /&gt;
			&lt;br /&gt;
feb 	rcas		job oportunity in bulgaria&lt;br /&gt;
	theodore dounas	interested in participating in a blender workshop&lt;br /&gt;
(bulgaria)&lt;br /&gt;
	spiderworm	asks for help on becoming a blender teacher&lt;br /&gt;
	theodore	idea: apply for funding like EU dissemination of knoledge&lt;br /&gt;
			offers: a little research, and present pottential oppurtunities in&lt;br /&gt;
next meeting&lt;br /&gt;
	ton R.		reviews http://www.cdschools.org/54223045235521/blank/browse.asp? &lt;br /&gt;
	hhec		notes from the meeting&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		next meeting topics&lt;br /&gt;
	rcas		rui's plans for libre graphic meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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