Org:Foundation/Bf-education/Archive/ML/2004-2005-summary
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Mailing list summary 2004-2005
2004 oct Ton R. setup of mailing list Rcas managment system http://blender.ruicampos.com/mgmt. nov jseaver suggested tutorials to use as reference for international audience rcas Idea: small course with its certification tools: +Xical - Phillip Richdale - Platform for courses and certifications +blenderzine 1 - Alexandre Rangel - Training CD in portuguese + Infrastructure and facilities support-Jono Bacon +Courses beta testers - Joshua Seaver Proposal: 1.Define content 2.Make the movie 3.Make translations 4.Implementation, Xical 5.Review and define goals for the course 6.Certification content and goals 7.Prepare deploy and test phase 8.Review results and define future goals Ton R. Seeks help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators rcas Offered help for maintaining tutorials and pages for educators and asked for details rcas management system's update claudio Esbosed a certification program. 2005 jan Gustavo Muñoz started course "introducing 3D for artists with blender" Offered spanish translations,colaboration in the certification program, official colaboration from the fine arts institute (spain) Rcas pointed february as the month to start hitting hard Rcas Asked for opinions for the courses. Added ideas about the coures and their estructure. Alarrea Agreed about the first rcas's question, differed in the second. Waiting for the courses to be ready. Rcas Hoped to have first set of courses ready in june/july (english) Offered translate it to portuguese, spanish, french and german. Was finishing something in the blender source to provide good visual feedback for the video courses. After finish with previous item. Offered the blender shorcuts tutorial as a proof of concept Asked for feedback and ideas. Planted the idea of defining standard courses to be later defined as the official set. Gustavo Muñoz Proposed a way to orginize the courses Asked about implementation of the "official" blender course titles Asked if certification was due to some hours of teaching blender Asked for teacher's certification. Asked who will choose among the courses the official one. Rcas Answered gustavo's questions. Gustavo Muñoz Agreed using Xical. Pointed that the demo is slow. Rcas Offered a link to a small demo in xical Ton R. Angela Plohman assigned to coordinate the education project. Goal: to have education/training material developed in 2005 The 1200 missprints issue. Ton R. BF intended for 2005 an update of the 2.3 guide. Idea: parallel book for people who wanted to learn blender and companion for the official blender certified book Proposed title: Blender fundamentals. Asked stefano for being the editor and reminded that the content should be done based on the help of experienced educators. Rcas Proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the course feb Gustavo muñoz proposed ideas for the guide and feedback about the course. Proposed the lessons of his course as the basis for the official course proposed ideas for the course. proposed a revenue system for the official courses Rcas Agreed gustavo's proposals proposed a video course along with the advanced books idea: certifying teachers that way company/school would be officially recognized. Daniel Labarge posted a new tutorial realfxstudios Daniel Labarge posted a new tutorial realfxstudios macouno was teaching 3d, planned to use blender but uncertain pointed few posts about certification and online lesson publishing pointed reasons why certification was not a good idea at the moment idea: official manual discount for educators who buy large ammounts ton R. reply to macouno's idea missprints issue. macouno proposed ideas for educators materials realfxstudios posted new tutorial Ton R. www.3dny.com contacted me for developing course materials asked for references Rcas reply Gustavo muñoz reply realfxstudios posted new tutorial realfxstudios updated website Ton R. introduced natraj to the mailing list natraj's letter: was aproacher an indian tv company for blender training. idea: create a blender training section on their website offered the material they developed free of cost in return of rights and an acknoledgment mar hhec proposed targets for the certification program proposed an structure for the certification as a compilation of ideas in the mailing list rcas Agreed hhec's proposal added the diploma's concept before certification hhec agreed rcas's proposal proposed a new structure adding the diploma's concept questions about who will emmitt diplomas and certificates and gives hipotetical answers for opinion rcas answers previous questions realfxstudios ideas for training approval differs from hhec's structure proposed a new structure for certification jseaver opinion: certificate or diploma it is for the initial "trainers" before general public. reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods rcas reviewed commercial companies training and educational methods proposal: books covering basic and advanced features and DVD's trouought the e-shop innovate aproach of the contents, focus in 3d and CG as the main content. Declared time to start defining specific contents, keeping in mind the following: There is already a Reference Book. There will be a series of "Blender Advanced" books. The approach should be centered on 3D and CG, not Blender itself (for that purpose we have the Reference Book). The content of the "Blender Basics" series is to be used by people who may or may not know anything about 3D and CG. The "Blender Advanced" series will be used to train experts. Ton R. Opinion: focus on feasible steps: to develop good course material (like Blender Fundamentals course book) develop a training program for trainers, and a means to certify them as such proposal: training should be targeted to teachers withing training facilities to help them get new business artists suscribing to "certified" training would get a diploma not a bf-education certification Setting up a good training program should essentially break the barrier to get Blender accepted for many professionals out there, who are not interested to participate in time-consuming web-based communities we could start with defining the structure for how to certify "Fundamental Trainer" certifications. Main benefits of this approach: it minimizes amount of work for the BF (we only have to certify trainers) a certification becomes valuable and defines status (only few have it) maximum freedom for teachers to structure courses clear business model; BF only will 'make money' from certifying trainers and (optional) educational material. For the rest it's up to the teacher to define how to do the business locally jseaver reviewed www.animationmentor.com jseaver complains about xical's video and sensitivity to programming errors Offered website with tutorials for students and teachers. rcas explains xical's video problem and solution. agrees the sensibility to errors in xical calls for alternatives to xical. ton R. Jim hoffman's letter: introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask explained plans ton R. reviewed http://ltc.smm.org/visualize/resources/tutorials/blender/modeling jim hoffman introduced 3d to high school in saskatoon, Sask explained plans gustavo muñoz working on translation of video tutos at blender3d.org to spanish asked for space to upload the tutos asked for help in adding the audio to the video ton R. reply jim hoffman's letter ton R. reply to gustavo muñoz space request hhec offered gustavo help translating the tutos g muñoz hhec comm handshake jseaver reviewed an introductory PDF for personal learning edition of Maya rcas opinion about the course's book: it should be a bit more extensive that The Art of Maya. The Art of Maya is pretty good, but I find it too basic, it should provide a bit more than that. jseaver www.joshuaseaver.com/3D/ArtofMaya.pdf ton R. asked for anyone with ideas for authoring/editing books apr paul chong expressed ideas for the publisher. may ton r. 2.3 manual issue jseaver 2.3 manual issue ton r. 2.3 manual issue rcas 2.3 manual issue ton r. 2.3 manual issue G. Muñoz 2.3 manual issue planned some larger courses ton r. 2.3 manual issue G. Muñoz 2.3 manual issue daniel labarge 2.3 manual issue aug Dhenton looking for classes resources ton r. reply dhenton dhenton offered publishing on the web his material (if classes....) Chris stones intend to write a series of how to use blender asked for someone to host the videos oct carsten tigges teacher orginizing an educational project some material already made and the rest will be published as it becomes ready jseaver been teaching to teens constantly experience teaching maya offered help to carsten tigges jseaver offered an overview of his student's works ross jardine teaching students 13-15 offered help reviewing educational material pascal companion Bentot des tutoriaux pour former des jeunes à Blender ;-) rcas reply carsten ton R. link to a summary of 2005 conference (in education) ewout Migration guides should be secondary to the main manual There should be separate manuals covering specific areas A quick start material is needed for "instant satisfaction" Concerned about consistency in style Offered to make an overview of style elements and combine them in a styleguide tom M. proposes to identify target market as a to-do samples of migration guides reviewed Zbrush at pixologic intention: develop training tools carstentiges software demo ready Offered help on education rcas reply carsten tom M. reviewed sketchups tom M. idea: create an intro to OOP structured on blender Dhenton debates tom M. nov carsten T. preparing sample chapters for a book about "general 3d - related to blender" asked for opinions about content of the book matt K. discuss and gives opinions and ideas to carsten about the book Rcas discuss and gives detailed opinions and ideas to carsten about the book tom M ideas related to newbies and the game engine hhec some opinions about the carsten book issue ton R. hhec's letter: described a self sustained plan for teaching and rising funds for foundation luigi monaco entered a project in the educational section asked for feedback dec Tom M competition for a "cheat sheet" sample cheatsheets from other vendors asked for a keyboard map layout in the cheatseet (present the reference's layout) links to a quickstart sample rcas proposed a meeting. Presented scope and goals for the meeting. carsten T. announces progress related to the book he anounced on november rcas link to wiki's agenda, minute and log propose topics for next meeting: times for meeting name for the channel purpose of each team 2006 jan tom M reviewed a 3dcg book at http://www.joetainment.com/Plone/thecgtextbook/ Bas van Dijk links to a dutch blender course rcas goals for 2006 in bfeducation: Worldwide workshops for Blender Help on the creation of the Training Book (for teachers) goals for 2006 in bfdocboard: Work closely for the creation of the Training Book Help organize things for a better workflow between the developers and the docboard Translating the missing parts of the Books to Portuguese Help with the creation of the new set of Books proposes topics for next meeting: Who will actively be in "charge" of bf-docboard, mostly for coordination The focus of each board, to avoid overlapping Define goals for 2006 for each board Create a proposal for Blender devs of a better workflow between Devs and Docboard, mostly for more up to date Documentation Define standard week day and time for Meetings rcas topics for next meeting feb rcas job oportunity in bulgaria theodore dounas interested in participating in a blender workshop (bulgaria) spiderworm asks for help on becoming a blender teacher theodore idea: apply for funding like EU dissemination of knoledge offers: a little research, and present pottential oppurtunities in next meeting ton R. reviews http://www.cdschools.org/54223045235521/blank/browse.asp? hhec notes from the meeting rcas next meeting topics rcas rui's plans for libre graphic meeting.
